This is the entire correspondence that I had recently with an acquaintance of mine whome, as it will be apparent, have been subject to herassment too. I would not have published it here had it not been because recent events have made it urgently necessary. I have censored only particular pieces of information due to reasons of privacy, and one that I found might have unintended psychoactive qualities, but otherwise I have kept the full conversation intact. My comments are generally in red brackets.
As it will be apparent it does shed at least some light upon some aspects of what has been going on. However one may choose to hypothesize about it.

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The profile image was changed. At that time she had an image of a little girl. Already That, plus the fact that she only had one other person (a guy with about a dusin thousand people on his "friends" list) on her friends list, ought to make anyone a bit suspicious about her intentions. 'Kind of smells abit like she was trying to get me in trouble.. Maybe trying to get me to get jealoux of that other guy, or what?.. - Notice also the combination of the phone brand she's given, and the profile name she chose: "razr"+"[herprofilename]" - suffice to say that it's something in the general vicinity of "mouse". Hmmm... What's she trying to psych me out by posing like she "hijacked" my name, or what?!.. (But now someone else relieved me of the "Raz" too, so I'm quite content with having now finally gotten rid of "The Half" entirely)... - But, hey, strictly speaking it COULD all be incidental. (Not least when viewed in the light of the absurdly high concentration of, at the very least statistically highly impropable, occurances that had been occurring in my life in the period leading up to that... You wouldn't believe, for example, the number of black cats that'd just so happened to pass through my perceptual field... And that's among the least bizar things.. - As a matter of fact; throughout this conversation I had to operate also with a hypothesis of what you might refer to as a "possessing spirit", projected by myself (as the conversation on her part appeared to contain hints and references to things in my personal sphere that she could not possibly have any knowledge of).. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. - And either way there were some loose ends that I wanted to wrap up with her.

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its me
[Much of the following account is rather flawed. Though nothing that can't be accounted for by the normal fallability of human memory (I comment on some of it in brackets), and it does contain rather convincing details]
i wrote u an email earlier but It got lost. all my accounts of [heroldprofilename]
[heroldprofilename-2] and [old profilename-3 (hitherto unknown to me)]
were hacked. the l,ast email i read from u was in 2006 from icq account. things werent going the
best for you i guess. ive moved 4 times. my world is nuts. all my things have been in storage for
the past year and a half. [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] went on to our place in new mexico. you had two white mice and
mice cam. your father was [not-, and is not] a retired history professor. you were [not exactly]
the custodian of the apartments where u lived with ketty [censored for reasons of privacy].
you seemed to be suffering from a social stigma due to a college postal experiment gone bad. you
had supernatural experience never actually defined to me. [It is also false that] you wore a
leather jacket and glasses with claims to a communist organization. [If the 'jacket and glasses' is not an atempt at 'voodoo' type manipulation (that topic comes up later) the only other explanation I can see for this claim is that maybe she has known someone else who had such an outfit and confused that with me.] you had sent me a report u had written, text embedded in jpeg, and an html folder
with a personal page in progress. you had a sims 1 group where the sims and pets behaviers were
reveresed. we had attempted an ebay experiement, and also had sent me the green butcher film as
well as an orange jelly penis candy and some cookies. at the time you had 2 nephews. this is
information u gave to me - it is me, eve the only thing that remains of my [heroldprofilename]
identity is [censored for reasons of privacy]. I AM HERE.
and u ? are you okay? any upheavals? I need some life advice. your the only person i trust from my
past internet life. the only one ive tried to contact. it is me - eve - b - [heroldprofilename]
catch me up if u will .
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omg i need to talk to you. did u get my message in your guestbook ? how are things . can we talk by
cell phone? i was hacked. been offline went through some life changes, and you?



This line of communication seem fine as it is for now. - But first, if you are who you make
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July 3rd: Just returned back home from abroad where I have been for the past week.
What a complete waste of my time (as I had expected), and let me not forget to mention: of an insane amount of money. And I brought nothing back.
(I am not going anywhere again anytime soon. I'm not a millionaire, you know!): I was trying to get in contact with a person I used to know because there are a couple of things I'd like to discuss. To perhaps get a chance to say proper goodbyes, as we never got around to back then, so that perhaps we could shut that door behind us once and for all (as I asume you'd want that too). Plus to clear up things, because it would be nice to actually have reliable info so I would know what I had to navigate on. And also I don't want to do things without your consent that you might misinterpret. - So even though I'd like to help out a friend* (if indeed that is what you were) there are limits to what I can and will do if we cannot communicate directly.
Speaking of which: DONT USE T.COOK!! - Koder&Ko IS NOT MY PAGE!!! (Just in case that's what you thought).
AND NEITHER IS THE RASMUS P NIELSEN FACEBOOK PROFILE!* - So don't let that fool you either!
And no: I still don't have a trustworthy internet connection.. Which is to say I'M OFFLINE! Period!
Which is to say, I guess: GOOD LUCK. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN!

*and by which I am obviously NOT referring to the evidently deranged mind or minds who appear to insist on deliberately over- and misinterpreting most
anything I say or write. (Besides; such misfits can obviously not qualify as "friends", since herassment and obstruction is a specifically unfriendly behaviour)!
**Obviously I can not be sure that it may not have been created by someone else by this name. But just so you know:
DON'T reveal info about yourself to that profile (nor other profiles using profile names that I have formerly used), thinking it's me. Because IT'S NOT!!
Apart from that: Occupying the profile name that would have been obvious for me so that I can't use it?!
That's just another example of the kind of things I've constantly had to put up with.
*This is the yellow text block that she is referring to below, which I had on the index page at that time.



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hej~!
u read my mind. we do have the connection. whoa. although i am restricted by limitations.
I have been trying to figure out what this is all about. i mean - whats up with u ?
the more i read on the web the more i am starting to see a nassty picture around u .
thats terrible.
I took a look at your geocities page. Im sorry this is happening to you . I know what its like
cause it happened to me too. I wish I could meet your terms but im moving again. and i dont have a
webcam anymore. but i took down your address anyway. It would be fantastic to meet IRL. you said
you went abroad but I cant tell from your pic where . anyways hope u had a good time. It is me,
eve, not an imposter but with what all youve been though, i wouldnt blame you if u didnt feel like
accepting the words here. as i read your page in yellow* i just turned to sweat. because I know.
someone changed my icq account to a middle aged man. whatever. i woulnt have sent u the "who can
it be now" thing if i had seen your page. horrible timing. i hope you are safe.i am looking at
pages in a webring about u . terrible. terrible english too. I didnt make these pages i promise.
"The reason he dedicated it to his own children is because someone said my sons book and he must
have thought it was really about this book and he went completely amok so everybody could see
what a nutcase he was. But then she just laughed and said she was sorry if she spilled redwine on
her daughters bo ok and he started screaming and shouting like a lunatic and stormed out! " this
makes no sense. do u have any idea what the fuck this is ?!?!?!?!
WHAT THE HELL? "This is a pic of a razzmouse from B's homepage. Do you think you can open "24
hours" Rasmus? -Who is this lucky person: b, Rasmus? Do you remember
what Erwin wrote about Hjadstrups wife that her psychiatrist ran off with her? What was it that got
on you and your girlfriends sims forum? "future husband", "future wife"** remember? What do you think
**[Someone (not me, but I have my hypotheses about whome it could be) wrote that in a pretend spam mail on the yahoo group I managed together with her back when the attacks started. - See the connection to the comment after the next comment!]
it means? Who do you think wrote that, Rasmus? (Dont that make Rasmus
his bitch, you think, B? Lucky Rasmus, heh.) Do you have a itch, Rasmus? Wouldnt you like to
scratch it? Punk..."
this is ....what tha? I promoise i didt. ?"Jesper Mogensen"?
this person who is doing this to you is close to you or ketty somehow. but it is not me.
i'll get back here in a bit.
best regards always
-b- (EVE) a women

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you have more or less convinced me is using the Mobango profile "[herprofilename]" - noone and nothing else
- or you and I have nothing to talk about. It's that simple.


Although I am not particularly happy about online communication at all I suggested webcam as a
quick and simple means of verification.

However I would mostly prefer that we meet IRL. - I asume that you know my street address (as it is
stated on my website) whereas I don't know your street address. So the meeting place appear to be
pretty self-given.


P.S. Don't send me any more videos and hyperlinks and stuff like that. That game is over* so please stop doing that.
['Thing is that she once suggested a game where we were to pose each other riddles and exchange revealing photos of ourselves. So that's what game I referred to in this utterance].



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hi. I dont have yahoo or webcam on this pc as it isnt mine. thanks for giving me a chance. im
here. im glad to know you are there too. i hope we get the chance to chat agian. youre a good
friend to me. I will do what i can to meet your terms. my life is "so cra zy" dont give up on me./
when your world is quaking its hard to find a place to stand. you can always reach me through my
email . so far no ones on to it . i dont know where to start . I dont have any ground to walk on at
present but trying to create some. I dont like starting a conversation not knowing if i'll be able
to finish it , so dont hold that against me. as its not intentional. i dont want to waste your
time neither. but you were always there for me. with logic. when my abstract self just PINGS. im
on dial up btw. so i cant send u - men at work - who can it be now -
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or any fun stuff like that . i guess im just saying hello for now and thinking of you, in a cooler
climate where things are calm not dis -intergrated. where the trees are giants tall and slender,
white bark, crisp air. still. friendly. wide toothy smiles. interest and energy. 3 waste bins per
houshold, a land where everyone recyles, and nature is clean. silly talk. life is "happening" all
around me and im struggling to keep "myself", and still not had my "chance". ya know. I just cant
accept things the way they are - i dream of change. i live to make change happen. does "happen "
change me?we will see. write back. im sorry it took so long.
-b-
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yay!
ok i'll download and install yahhoo mess now. i read some more of your geocities.
the natrix. I completely agree. the election is fake we loose. either way . there is no "choice"
the world is getting creepier huh. if i send u a dvd in the mail could u play it there i mean
format wise? we think about the same things. as ive been offline ive been reading alot.
superstitions. paranormal. the begining of different civilizations. the things you think. and I
think I cant communicate to others . i mean they dont get it & i end up yelling. but this proves -
after time of no communication with you. it proves to me that our intrests are parallel. your
conclusions are mine also. careful that we are not being led. yet i am unable to "show" to others
the topics bieng too compounded. u know. sometimes its hard - static brain. u know. i cant explain
abstract thoughts.
I will WILL I WILL* chat with you this day. im gonna go getta drink n smoke and try to sort this all out.
[*The reason I made her specify (And she DID specify) explicitly that this statement does NOT express will of anything other than chatting. - Especially keeping in mind the phrasing of the before (in the comment before the previous comment) mentioned attack on the yahoo group we had. Though consider also my previously mentioned hypothesis of a "possessing spirit".]
sticky web.
-b- ME

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Ok. Then contact me _by Yahoo-messenger_ at my [My other mail address] account - Then I'll check it
once in awhile - when you have a webcam, or you are settled down enough for us to arrange a
meeting.

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hej~!
u read my mind. we do have the connection. whoa. although i am restricted by limitations.
I have been trying to figure out what this is all about. i mean - whats up with u ?

the more i read on the web the more i am starting to see a nassty picture around u .

thats terrible.
I took a look at your geocities page. Im sorry this is happening to you . I know what its like
cause it

happened to me too. I wish I could meet your terms but im moving again. and i dont have a webcam
anymore. but i took down your address anyway. It would be fantastic to meet IRL. you said you went
abroad but I cant tell from your pic where . anyways hope u had a good time. It is me, eve, not an
imposter but with what all youve been though, i wouldnt blame you if u didnt feel like


accepting the words here. as i read your page in yellow i just turned to sweat. because I know.
someone changed my icq account to a middle aged man. whatever. i woulnt have sent u the "who can
it be now" thing if i had seen your page. horrible timing. i hope you are safe.i am looking at
pages in a webring about u . terrible. terrible english too. I didnt make these pages i promise.
"The reason he dedicated it to his own children is because someon e said my sons book and he must
have thought it was really about this book and he went completely amok so everybody could see
what a nutcase he was. But then she just laughed and said she was sorry if she spilled redwine on
her daughters book and he started screaming and shouting like a lunatic and stormed out! " this
makes no sense. do u have any idea what the fuck this is ?!?!?!?!
WHAT THE HELL? "This is a pic of a razzmouse from B's homepage. Do you think you can open "24
hours" Rasmus? -Who is this lucky person: b, Rasmus? Do you remember
what Erwin wrote about Hjadstrups wife that her psychiatrist ran off with her? What was it that got
on you and your girlfriends sims forum? "future husband", "future wife" remember?* What do you
think it means? Who do you think wrote that, Rasmus? (Dont that make Rasmus
his bitch, you think, B? Lucky Rasmus, heh.) Do you have a itch, Rasmus? Wouldnt you like to
scratch it? Punk..."
this is ....what tha? I promoise i didt. ?"Jesper Mogensen"?

this person who is doing this to you is close to you or ketty somehow. but it is not me.

i'll get back here in a bit.
best regards always
-b- (EVE) a women

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Let me put it to you this straight: Either I see, face to face, the concrete fysical person whome
you have more or less convinced me is using the Mobango profile "[herprofilename]" - noone and nothing else
- or you and I have nothing to talk about. It's that simple.



Although I am not particularly happy about online communication at all I suggested webcam as
a quick and simple means of verification.

However I would mostly prefer that we meet IRL. - I asume that you know my street address (as it is
stated on my website) whereas I don't know your street address. So the meeting place appear to be
pretty self-given.



P.S. Don't send me any more videos and hyperlinks and stuff like that. That game is over so please
stop doing that.



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hi. I dont have yahoo or webcam on this pc as it isnt mine. thanks for giving me a chance. im
here. im glad to know you are there too. i hope we get the chance to chat agian. youre a good
friend to me. I will do what i can to meet your terms. my life is "so crazy" dont give up on me./
when your world is quaking its hard to find a place to stand. you can always reach me through my
email . so far no ones on to it . i dont know where to start . I dont have any ground to walk on
at present but t rying to create some. I dont like starting a conversation not knowing if i'll be
able to finish it , so dont hold that against me. as its not intentional. i dont want to waste
your time neither. but you were always there for me. with logic. when my abstract self just PINGS.
im on dial up btw. so i cant send u - men at work - who can it be now -

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or any fun stuff like that . i guess im just saying hello for now and thinking of you, in a
cooler climate where things are calm not dis -intergrated. where the trees are giants tall and
slender, white bark, crisp air. still. friendly. wide toothy smiles. interest and energy. 3 waste
bins per houshold, a land where everyone recyles, and nature is clean. silly talk. life is
"happening" all around me and im struggling to keep "myself", and still not had my "chance". ya
know. I just cant accept things the way they are - i dream of change. i live to make change happen.
does "happen " change me?we will see. write back. i m sorry it took so long.
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im downloading mess. it could take awhile . im here at this window at your convience
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Subject: Re:hi

1
It is specified that any instance of the words "I", "me", and other 1st person pronouns in this
entire conversation does not refer to anything nor to anybody else than to the concrete fysical
person who typed it. And likewise that any instance of the word "you" does not refer to anything
nor to anything* else than the concrete fysical person whome the person typing it intended to
address.
*[Obviously this is a typo: The correct is of course: "-that any instance of the word "you" does not refer to anything nor to anybody else than the concrete fysical person whome the person typing it intended to address."]
2
It is specified that the statement by the person using the Mobango profile: [herprofilename], in her reply
of october 24th or 25th, to the person using the Mobango profile C64dude, states ONLY that
she; the concrete fysical person using the Mobango profile [herprofilename], on that time when she typed
it, intended to chat to the concrete fysical person using the Mobango profile C64dude, and not to
anything or anyone else. Thus it DOES NOT imply anything else than that!

rasmus it is me eve in the flesh and blood, me , myself, I , 1st, 2nd , and 3rd person. the
reincarnation of [heroldprofilename]-[herprofilename] talking with c64dude. you .
its me okay. its me.
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I absolutely have to strongly recommend that you REPEAT theses following two statements to confirm
that you agree to them:

1
It is specified that any instance of the words "I", "me", and other 1st person pronouns in this
entire conversation does not refer to anything nor to anybody else than to the concrete fysical
person who typed it. And likewise that any instance of the word "you" does not refer to anything
nor to anything else than the concrete fysical person whome the person typing it intended to
address.

2
It is specified that the statement by the person using the Mobango profile: [herprofilename], in her reply
of october 24th or 25th, to the person using the Mobango profile C64dude, states ONLY that she; the
concrete fysical person using the Mobango profile [herprofilename], on that time when she typed it, intended
to chat to the concrete fysical person using the Mobango profile C64dude, and not to anything or
anyone else. Thus it DOES NOT imply anything else than that!


[herprofilename] wrote:
yay!
ok i'll downloa d and install yahhoo mess now. i read some more of your geocities.
the natrix. I completely agree. the election is fake we loose. either way . there is no "choice"
the world is getting creepier huh. if i send u a dvd in the mail could u play it there i mean
format wise? we think about the same things. as ive been offline ive been reading alot.
superstitions. paranormal. the begining of different civilizations. the things you think. and I
think I cant communicate to others . i mean they dont get it & i en d up yelling. but this proves -
after time of no communication with you. it proves to me that our intrests are parallel. your
conclusions are mine also. careful that we are not being led. yet i am unable to "show" to others
the topics bieng too compounded. u know. sometimes its hard - static brain. u know. i cant explain
abstract thoughts.

I will WILL I WILL chat with you this day. im gonna go getta drink n smoke and try to sort this all
out.
sticky web.
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[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:05:07): hi. youre surely sleeping.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:05:14): dialup hell
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:05:30): so youve been busy being stalked huh
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:05:32): sucks
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:11:46): i got yr message. ponder ponder
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:11:55): thanks for the invitation btw
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 04:23:43): youre mind aches because youve heightened your ultra sensory depth
perception - you are becoming more phychic.


rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 12:12:13): No. I am NOT dialling up hell.[cencored (a little mindless remark that I found might have had unintended psychoactive qualities that I don't want to expose the reader to).] - Are
you doing that on purpose? Because your previous mails too had stuff like that in them.


[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:27:17): hallo
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:28:15): imnot sure wha t u ,mean exactly but all i was referring to was it
took me 5hours to download and install yahoo bieng i am in dail up connection helll here.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:28:26): anyways..you are acting so strange.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:28:52): why dont you take a vacation to the US. of course i'd have to
smuggle you . heh. no?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:34:42): Hey
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:34:57): hey your scaringme are you ok?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:35:19): Did you read the mail I sent to you at Mobango?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:35:26): most of it
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:35:46): geocities - mainly
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:36:29): what do you mean "geocities"?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:37:12): are you in danger? your geocities website. i read there too. u need
to be careful. this person sounds really dangerous
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:38:07): fuck hold on i just got your latest email
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:38:34): I'm ok. - As for the mobango mail I sent you: Please repeat
those sentences.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:39:14): okay rasmus i promise you when i refer to "i" ,"me" or the 1st
person - i am truely and with all acuallity refering to me, myself, I . not anyone else
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:39:22): in the entire conversation
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:39:32): comletely
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:39:40): and no one else
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:39:58): me the flesh and blood person
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:40:33): HEY ARE YOU OKAY?!?!?!
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:40:37): Ok. Good. - Better send that in a mobango mail too.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:40:49): yah [herprofilename] is talking to c64dude.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:40:52): okay
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:40:56): as you wish
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:41:30): Yes I'm pretty much ok all things considered. I'm just taking
precautionary steps.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:42:23): And the best thing would be if you'd repeat those sentences
word-by-word. BOTH of them.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:43:36): It is specified that any instance of the words "I", "me", and other
1st person pronouns in this entire conversation does not refer to anything nor to anybody else
than to the concrete fysical person who typed it. And likewise that any instance of the word
"you" does not refer to anything nor to anything else than the concrete fysical person whome
the person typing it intended to address.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:43:48): It is specified that the statement by the person using the Mobango
profile: [herprofilename], in her reply of october 24th or 25th, to the person using the Mobango profile
C64dude, states ONLY that she; the concrete fysical person using the Mobango profile [herprofilename],
on that time when she typed it, intended to chat to the concrete fysical person using the
Mobango profile C64dude, and not to anything or anyone else. Thus it DOES NOT imply anything
else than that!
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:43:55): "physical"
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:44:15): Phew!
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:44:35): you are really specific.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:44:44): I have to be.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:46:22): I have been pestered by some annoying thing kept trying to
twitch my words.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:46:32): how long has this been going on ?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:48:17): And no. It my "ultry sensory depth perception" is NOT being
heightened. That was not what I was talking about.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:48:50): For a LONG time. Actually it
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:49:56): Actually it's been alot worse than it is now. Though that's
mostly due to the fact that I simply block it off from communicating to me at all.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:50:32): look im sorry, just that this is really far out, i had no idea . so
when you were refering to brain pain you were not refering to a mental corkscrew in the phychic
sense.

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:50:44): WTF?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:51:10): look, are you around high frequencies or something?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:51:36): I don't know that expression. I am not doing drugs if that's
what mean.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:51:52): no. antennas
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:51:56): cell phone toweres
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:52:01): wifi towers ect
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:54:19): Blocking the signal best I can!
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:56:30): electromagnetic high frequency. can hurt you, and make you feel
really "bad" like you're being watched ect.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:56:54): it even be bad wiring in your apartment, below your unit or in the
attic
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:57:21): EMF for short
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:57:25): Please just stop talking about that.

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:57:29): what?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:57:35): are you ok?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:57:43): can i help you?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 16:59:12): By not metaphorizing about that would be helpful.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 16:59:58): oh fuck. okay. as you wish.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:00:07): Thank you.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:00:28): so when can i pick u up at the airport?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:01:37): Give me a day or so to consider that. Where are you located?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:03:32): i am relocating very soon to the mesalands. im considering taking
paleotology degree there, as i own property with in 10 miles of a very unique dinosaur dig. im
confident
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:04:31): www.mesalands.edu
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:05:22): i would look out for you rasmus . just dont run away , if you come
okay.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:06:12): i mean you would be free to go home but ...

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:06:46): this location is sopose to be a spiritual place to the natives. is
that good or bad for you? lots of open space - solace?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:06:48): Ok I asumed I would. But thanx anyways.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:07:55): As long as there are not a whole lot of people around.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:07:59): just look!
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:08:46): not alot. small town like 6000 college has 167 full time students.
my property is outside of there
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:09:08): ah. but im trying to get a solar bunkhouse out there
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:09:23): 1 question.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:09:32): do cemeteries bother you?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:11:33): Not as such. Only I don't take well to alot of written text -
such as inscriptions - in my vicinity.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:16:12): Is there anything like forest or moor or something else
desolate around?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:16:25): (sorry that was 267 full time students earlier) please just look at
acouple of videos for me. I need to know your opinion okay?
[external URL] please look at paleontology and at wind energy
tech . pls pls pls pls i need to know what you think of it specifically.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:17:07): heheh.well when u look at paelontolgoy video they show the land area
from helicopter
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:17:48): in the mesalands banner it shows kinda the land

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:18:02): I would be more than happy to take you to the national forests
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:18:20): no moors here that europe
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:18:23): the is dry country
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:18:30): only ghost towns
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:18:52): Ah. Sounds nice and quiet.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:18:56): YES
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:19:03): but sometimes a train?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:20:00): No problem.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:20:10): quiet it is , my place is alone. neighbors are in the distance and
the the mesa are behind it, lots of open sky and room to walk. no towers at my place either
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:20:50): Any particular of these videos?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:21:16): even the music instruments are being stored at the music shop, where
recording are done.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:21:34): paleontology please, and also wind energy technology (very short)

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:22:09): we could also raid the college library YAY! heheh
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:22:23): We could also NOT do that.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:22:36): Having a problem reading, remember.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:22:43): it is very peacful at the abandoned church I own, but the tools that
repar it would make noise.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:23:02): yeah I guess. I sorry its hard for me to understand
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:23:19): I am not so much bothered by noise at such.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:24:05): are you refering to aggresive entity? or aggresive technology
assalt?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:24:32): Where did you get the term "entity"?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:24:59): okay state this once. is this problem internal or external?

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:25:15): problem source i should say
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:25:48): Where did you get the term "entity"?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:26:07): i read you writing on the natrix
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:26:16): Ah. Ok.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:26:56): These are in particular things that I'm not comfortable abou
discussing online.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:27:17): ok. the keyboard will tell on you. i understand
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:27:34): we will find the electric brain and disassemble it!
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:29:01): No the keyboard won't tell on me. But I just prefer not to
talk about this other than in person.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:29:10): im with you on this. i may not understand fully. having no 1st hand
expierence myself. but i support you on this.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:29:24): its okay. i'll try not to push you..
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:29:29): Good.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:30:21): Not right now.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:30:29): i dont have a mic
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:31:19): tell me when u are watching the video okay so ill shutup

rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:31:35): Did you just send a call request to me?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:31:42): on impulse yes.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:32:33): Oh ok. It's just because then you said "I don't have a mic"
so I wondered why you'd call if you don't have a mic.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:32:46): spastically reaching out i guess
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:33:20): I didn
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:33:46): I didn't see much of the landscape in those videos I have to
say.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:33:54): when you come will you bring all your writing?

rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:34:02): No I won't.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:34:56): Anything in particular you had in mind?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:35:20): theory of AI for one
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:36:04): pretty much take all of your stuff here to the US and publish them
at the college
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:36:59): I'm not so sure that would be good for the college.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:38:12): uh....ok. i want you to stay awhile. relax and recover then work on
creative project.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:39:50): oh as for the land. its flat not alot of trees sadly. but not too
far is the nest place in the us to me , the national forest that i promise you would keep you
from feeling homesick.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:40:44): there are cabins up there
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:41:07): What else have you been doing since last we chatted?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:41:51): [external URL] my favorite place
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:42:20): i asked you that question 1st .
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:43:35): I've pretty much been fighting off psych-attacks and
recovering.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:45:38): wow. ok. imve been trying to get my grip around a conformative
"normal" life. yet it does not work out, smoothly
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:46:56): my folks bought me a house and were having it remodeled and the
carpenter bled them dry. I mean they still have thier investments but no available funds. and
the place isnt finished. so i say "fuck it" im going to school.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:48:06): Ah. So how far are you in your studies?

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:48:33): enrollment starts in the spring. this was a rather recent
arrangement.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:48:50): besides. i may do computer science to begin with
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:49:22): A.I. dino-android. mmmm no. maybe.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:50:42): So you just started school recently as far as I can
understand
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:53:48): no. i havent moved out there yet. should be in 1 month. im with
[name-of-her-presumed-wife], she will be taking the wind energy degree, and also , auto cad, and mold casting (as in
making things from a mold) then [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] is out there recording with his friend who owns the music
store. and then our potential - [name-of-an-acquaintance-of-hers]- who dropped out of his bands [name-of-a-band] tour to date
my cousin. but they arnt together anymore.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:54:15): but we shouldnt crowd you
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:55:24): Oh.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:56:00): instead of everyone paying rent to some shitty apartments. we though
we would get a new solar (completely off the grid) bunkhouse we could share
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:56:41): i think we could accomodate you and make you feel comfortable with
out hassling you too much.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:57:07): its just that i think you are a somewhat flexible person. youve just
been "sitting" too long.
['Funny, because it was after her that the Natrix started acting up like a slave driver constantly hazzled me and pushed me around like I was a frickin' slave - presumably "to keep me on my toes". - Although in all fairness I have to add that although it wasn't bossing me around before then, it wasn't actually allowing me to get anything concrete for my work before then either. In fact once I uttered my dissatisfation about that to her, and one might well hypothesize that the Natrix' change in behaviour towards me since then had to do with that rather than with her.]
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 17:57:28):
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:58:29): you wont starve, and you wont be alone, unless you chose to be.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 17:58:41): so your turn, whats changed? whats stayed the same?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:01:05): oh and there are lakes around if you like big reflective pools heh
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:02:54): Well. I atempted a data-science school cos I wanted to get a
degree, but I was pretty much chased out of there. After that I mostly just worked on my
homepage alot (the older homepage that was there before) but that was attacked and besides I
got tired of having it too cos all I was doing was pretty much defending myself from attacks...
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:03:57): u could totally go to computer science school with us and people
will like you & respect you BECAUSE your different that the free country here
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:04:33): you have the right to express your views no matter how conflicting
with the established. they cannot bully you or you would have lawsuit
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:06:25): and you can even study from home if you dont feel like sitting in
class
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:07:55): ...Then - and this is interesting - I saw what appeared to be
a message that COULD be from you (although it had no sender) saying explicitly "need to see you
asap". I didn't believe it was from you much, but none the less I looked up your name and found
a personal profile which had your picture on it - or at least I felt very much convinced that I
recognized it immediately as you. And it stated a particular town too... So I went there...
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:07:59): just dont blab too much about communisst okay
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:08:18): WHOA
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:08:27): And what's very much interesting about this is that I
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:09:58): that I'm also pretty convinced that I caught a glimple of you
- that is; of the woman from the picture - in the crowd... And I got a real good look too
because I was standing less than 50 meters away waiting at a shop to open...
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:10:32): i havent been in europe n almost 9 years
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:11:05): it wasnt me just a holograph surely
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:11:41): Only, she was with some guys, so I wouldn't want to approach
at that time. 'Just waited around in that town for two weeks, hoping I could get in contact
with you (her) at a better time.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:12:17): But she didn't show up and at last I got tired of waiting and
went home...
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:12:46): So that's the travel I was talking about on the front page of
my webpage.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:13:51): WTF ?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:13:59): two weeks.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:14:00): On which I wasted half of pretty much the not very much money
in the first place that I had managed to scrape together.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:14:16): i will fly you out here
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:14:24): Well I was patient.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:14:30): you could end up dead if u stay there
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:14:41): i guess. two weeks!
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:15:05): rooms are really expensive there.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:15:21): Where?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:15:29): if it was me i would have totally confirmed it was me, i would have
called you sent email.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:15:55): i just know when i was stockholm a room for two nights was really
expensive
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:16:20): where did u go exactly?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:17:01): When I can see your face in realtime I might tell you that.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:19:31): So you see: Now I don
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:19:40): So you see: Now I don
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:22:12): So you see now I don't really know what to believe, as you
say you haven't been abroad, though I was so sure that I saw the particular Eve I knew in the
flesh somewhere else. And the whole trip did not appear to have had much other purpose than to
drain my resources.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:22:50): gee it could cost $1618 to get you here on a 17 hr flight on delta
but we could do it
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:24:09): its okay. its going to be okay. becuase what ive learned from these
pitfalls is, sometimes its neccesary to get you to arrive at the destination
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:24:17): maybe it has to be this way
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:24:54): maybe you had to be flat ass broke & go through all that trouble so
you could take the chance to get here.

rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:25:20): Well I would prefer to go by boat. I don't like flying.
Still... You see my problem: If I was to actually go to [a-state-in-the-U.S.] then how can I be sure that it
would not just be another trip like that and you weren't there at all?
[If asuming the hypothesis that she might actually have no good intentions towards me then she might well be in [country-where-I-went], just trying to lure me onto another wild goose chase.]
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:25:21): in other words, if you hadnt the bad luck or whatever you would be
too secure to take the risk. follow me?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:26:15): we can exchange postcards by mail to know its us
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:26:20): dont say where your from
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:26:25): on here
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:26:54): thats why the postcard
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:28:06): travel by boat would be harder to arrange, but anything is possible
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:28:37): how would i know if i bought the travel pass you'd be on the boat
and not cash in the pass and go shopping?

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:29:24): not to be rude
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:30:37): No offence taken. But that's exactly the problem in a
nutshell. That's why I posted my street adress and insisted that this time you come here.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:30:55): u came to u.s.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:30:58): ?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:31:16): Ponder ponder.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:31:40): ah. dammit. if you did we were soo close too close WHY couldnt we
got in touch
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:31:55): that sucks soo bad
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:31:56): BUT
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:32:02): you had my old address
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:32:21): you could have contacted my family and tyhey wouldve reached me
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:32:23): No I didn't.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:32:31): you sent me sstuff before
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:32:37): and i did u
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:32:42): I didn't have your old address anymore at that time.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:33:14): Besides, if I remember correctly you just had a PObox
address.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:33:26): you came to the us and then no show becuase of some "crazy fuck" i
dont blame you.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:34:07): my hometown is sooo small if you had shown up here you'd had stuck
out like a sore thumb. im sure i wouldve heard word by now
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:34:35): look how do i know its really you now
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:34:49): PUT YOUR FACE ON
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:35:19): Ok. Just a sec. Have to connect the webcam then.

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:35:38): im gonna have a smoke and soak this in. brb
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:45:37): hello
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:45:42): yes its you
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:46:35): you need totalk by encrypted email
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:47:29): No I don't. I don't think that's the ideal solution.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:47:39): did you come to east or west coast
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:47:42): i will call you?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:48:05): Not since you don't have my number you won't.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:51:00): Though I get an idea: Do you have a cam in your mobile?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:51:36): yes but my bluetooth wont link to my pc or the stupid usb cable
either!!
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:52:38): And that's the only way to transfer pictures between your
mobile and your PC? -It don't have a memory card?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:52:39): you can have my # if you want it ?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:53:00): no it's a locked fone
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:53:10): but maybe there's another way
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:57:55): it sounds like your in some trouble. you are my friend. i need to
help you. but i must protect myself and my family

rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 18:58:03): Because what I was thinking is that you could take a picture
of yourself with your mobile, doing something that I tell you - like writing "Hey hey this is
me" on a piece of paper and show it on the cam so that I can see it's really you and it's not a
picture that was taken in advance.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:58:53): ok i will find my digital camara and do it
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:59:41): look my user name in this chat is showing now as "E ON"
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 18:59:48): y?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:00:14): Ehh.. no.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:01:04): test
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:01:10): Nope.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:01:20): on here it is
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:01:26): gonna sign out
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:01:37): Ok.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:02:04): test
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:02:08): Nope.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:02:36): yes
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:02:44): Not here.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:02:58): im fucked
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:03:02): Ohh... Now I see what you mean.

[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:03:17): i cant change it
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:03:23): we are bieng monitored
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:03:39): Up there by the online status?
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:03:45): yes
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:04:20): Oh ok. - I thought you meant the name you appear with at each
message.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:04:29): YES exactly
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:04:58): has changed to "E ON"
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:05:40): Still says "Eve [Presumed surname] - test" here
[For whatever reason she calls herself by that name. Given my conclusions later on there is a reason at the very least to hypothesise that that's not her real name. Perhaps she tries to get me in trouble with someone by that name? Or to get someone by that name in trouble?]
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:06:31): ummm
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:06:45): this isnt good
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:07:00): is mobango secure
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:07:05): Now it just says "Eve [Presumed surname]"
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:09:15): That reminds me; I was meaning to ask if you knew a way that
I can change what name you appear with on my messenger? - I seem to recall there used to be a
"contacts" menu, but I haven't been able to find it now.
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:09:29): i dont know
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 19:09:37): go to mobango
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:10:24): Ok. Are you gonna send me a mail or what?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:12:25): Oh you mean you could put it on your profile picture.
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:14:12): ?
rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 19:16:51): So?


[Notice: Mobango-mail's time-of-day display shows 1 hour earlier than Yahoo-messenger. - I might need to move some of the mails accordingly. I haven't checked that.]

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i wanted to take my picture off. i think whoever might be onto me
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[She changed it into a picture of a dish of food. Though I didn't think of keeping it. - Keeping in mind though, that before she temporarily changed her profile image into a picture of herself she had a picture of like a 10 year old.. - Why already at that point I get suspicious; if not of her identity then very much so of her intentions.]


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yahoo is how i got hacked in the 1st place 2 years ago. i found my digi cam. batteries are dead.
will find more.

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Calm down. We're not being monitored at yahoo messenger. It's just you were working yourself
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i wanted to take my picture off. i think whoever might be onto me
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ok pass changed. [name-of-her-presumed-wife] thinks the government was monitoring us.
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Ok. I suggest then you change your passwords to anything just to be sure.

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yahoo is how i got hacked in the 1st place 2 years ago. i found my digi cam. batteries are
dead. will find more.

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right. lets try something. [name-of-her-presumed-wife] is going to add you to her messenger. you'll know its us cause ive
just told you. then we'll see what happens. we can chat again. in the meanwhile i'll be working
on getting that photo id request.

C64dude wrote:
I doubt it but of course these days you never really know.


[herprofilename] wrote:


ok pass changed. [name-of-her-presumed-wife] thinks the government was monitoring us.
C64dude wrote:


Ok. I suggest then you change your passwords to anything just to be sure.


[herprofilename] wrote:
yahoo is how i got hacked in the 1st place 2 years ago. i found my digi cam. batteries are
dead. will find more.

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Calm down. We're not being monitored at yahoo messenger. It's just you were working yourself
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i wanted to take my picture off. i think whoever might be onto me
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It's ok. What's up with the prof ile image?
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do you have rice crackers there?
[Why?! 'A pretty odd question 'hasn't got anything to do with anything.. Tentatively trying free asociation here: Rice?.. Crackers?.. Firecrackers?.. Rice and firecrackers? Someone or "something" planning on throwing a wedding?.. - (May I add: Going directly against the presumed "bride"s explicit specification that her expression of will to chat with me was not, and is NOT an "agreement" of anything like that! (So definately: in that particular context I object to any such unconsensual supposed wedding between that acquaintance of mine with whome I had the conversation in this document (and/or myself) and some supernatural entity. So that event is CANCELLED!) - Though the "haunting spirit" of my own perceptual space, as I have called it, was at a period, until I finally found a way to stop it, making similar claims about me. - With the same obvious disregard of any refusals...)]
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Nice new profile image. Though it don't look anything like anyone I know. lol.
[This time she changed it into a picture of a candy man (see picture below). - Even worse with regard to my doubts about her intentions: Is she deliberately trying to get me into trouble?! - But at this point I was giving her the benefit of the doubt.]
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[name-of-her-presumed-wife] is my wife
[As far as I am informed that state in the U.S. does not allow, and does not even recognize, same-sex marriages. (And neither does the country that I visited offer same sex marriage, btw, although they do grant "civil union" there offering legal rights similar to those of married couples) So evidently - at least in any legal sense - that claim is not true!]
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They can be bought in the stores. What for?


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do you have rice crackers there?
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what the hell are you talking about its me eve dude

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possession a scalpel, and I know where my jugular is. This account is Žhereby no longer in use.

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i thot we might use her chatting account to see if it starts acting crazy or changes on its own


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i ama lesbian I thought u knew i was bi before


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do you have rice crackers there?
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i ama lesbian I thought u knew i was bi before


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u got the pic i sent you with the sign you told me to make right? or are you just jerking me around
for sex? HUH!?!?!?!

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on its own
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do you have rice crackers there?
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confirmationlørdag 25. oktober 2008 20.18
Fra: "Eve [Presumed surname]" <[her mail address]>
Til: [My other mail address]
Meddelelse indeholder vedhæftede filer [herprofilename].JPG (31KB)

here it is




[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:31:36): i sent the mail
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:31:50): whats your problem? i thought you knew i was bi before
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:32:07): or are you just jerking me around for sex
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:32:24): dammit i did everything you asked youre not bieng fair
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:32:41): its me you can believe it or not and you are scaring me so WTF
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:33:05): you shouldnt jump to conclusions
[herprofilename] (25-10-2008 20:38:15): im out of here




u shouldnt jump to conclusionslørdag 25. oktober 2008 20.37
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u know what. if you'd look at the picture you'd know it was me. yah im bi. i thought u knew that.
anyway what does it matter to you - u just jerking me around for sex. maybe u just dont want to be
friends anymore & just dont want to say. if u want me to leave u alone. fine. u are the one who is
playing games. i ve dont everything u asked. youre not being fair. whatever. u didnt even give me a
chance.
peace out
brotha
eve - b- whatever and yes i changed some stuff in my yahoo profile i thought i told u i got
SCARED okay!?!?!?!?!




rasmuspnielsen (25-10-2008 21:12:59): Listen I'm logging off too for awhile. I need to get some
fresh air and calm down. I hope we can chat later and that you don't hate me. Sorry again.




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apparently you know something that someone doesnt want you too. i dont want any part of THAT.
although i found myself already mentioned 3 times in the ruin your life webring. as you said my
soposed picture was sent to you. 1st of all when u recieve an email with no sender you DONT
OPEN THAT EMAIL. i thought everyone knew that. where did u go to meet "me" i need to know - how
close this got to me in the physical. have you ever seen the film with johnny depp - secret
window- what if u AR E generating this in your own mind. but i know i was hit (hacked) 2 years
ago obliterationg my online identity as i knew it. starting with yahoo, then icq and most of
the rest. I also KNOW my nick changed on yahoo mess when i opened up the "passage" for the
webcam. I cant take that chance. It could be safe to chat through drk_str if we dont open any
gateway with cam or anything.

C64dude wrote:
Ok. I'll check there. I hardly ever use that mail-account anymore so... I'm back on messenger.
Sorry again.

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i sent to [My other mail address]
im gonna take a break -i'll see u here in a bit . if u want it that way. and dont tell me about
your scapel i am not responsible if u scare the shit out of yourself and do something stupid.
if u mention it again i wont ever speak to you again. i am who i say i am . take it or leave
it. because u and i know the person who is bothering you is local to you. and doesnt speak or
type like i do and am. i'll give you some time to think it all over. then whatever. at least
give me the courtesy of your decision.
its really sad.


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Ehh... Where did you send that picture then?

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u got the pic i sent you with the sign you told me to make right?
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okay

its ok. i am eve [presumed middle name] [Presumed surname] in facebook. you will know its me i just made the account. thanks for
letting me explain before you did yourself in or whatever.
i dont wanat any trouble. but if someone was posing as me and you came all the way over here i
guess im already involved . anyways. the next move is yours. take it wasy and get some rest.
peace




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First of all: So you don't worry. I wasn't in USA at all. It was in [country-where-I-went].
But you realise then why it is that I have not accepted your
friendship request on Mobango.

Secondly: As for Facebook the only people who would be able to see you
on my friends list there would be other people on my friends list. And
I only got people on there that I'm 100% sure of who they are. And
none of them from any of the enviroments that I have suspected. Still
I'd have to say that you'd be the only person on it with an english
name. But I'll send you a request and you can accept it if you're up
to it. And do I have to say: In any instance, as a general precaution:
Don't give away too much info about yourself on your profile. Also
I've heard about the "entourage" thing that some applications that
users can send to each other or play games and such might atempt to
steal info about friends lists and the like, so disable that.

Finally: I'll go offline now. The psych-attacks tend to get more
intense when I get agitated, so I'll just get some rest now and talk
to you later.

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> okay
>
> its ok. i am eve [presumed middle name] [Presumed surname] in facebook. you will know its me i just made
> the account. thanks for letting me explain before you did yourself in or
> whatever.
> i dont wanat any trouble. but if someone was posing as me and you came all
> the way over here i guess im already involved . anyways. the next move is
> yours. take it wasy and get some rest.
> peace
>
>
>




drk_str3000 (25-10-2008 21:18:26): merrrrr
drk_str3000 (25-10-2008 21:19:04): this account is wrapped in a high security password.
drk_str3000 (25-10-2008 21:19:19): the other one we were talking through was a medium security
password
drk_str3000 (25-10-2008 21:21:43): i had to eat a freaking sandwich.
[Could that be a reference to the sandwitch.wmv video I had on my webpage? - And, to complicate the question; taking into account the hypothesis of a possessing spirit, then which "spirit" or "personality" is referring to which version of interpretation of this utterance?]



rasmuspnielsen (27-10-2008 00:31:01): Anyways there were some things. When you get online again...
[Things getting abit too complex in this conversation for consensual communication to be going on. So let's just wrap it up and get it done with.]



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I don't think you need to worry about your own Yahoo acount being
monitored. My guess is it's just the haunting spirit again who was
trying to scare you off from using it because I made you make that
statement, so now it would seem like it's trying to make us use a
different channel of communication. - It tried to do the same with me,
scaring me off from using Mobango cos it had someone I don't know send
me a mail after it had warned me in advance not to open it. So I
didn't. And besides, as I said, I am going to get my Mobango account
shut down if I can, because I'm not using it anyways.

But the point is that I think the main reason it tried to scare you
off from using the [herprofilename] account, is that it don't like us using
those lines of communication now where we made that statement about
the 1st person pronoun, because by doing that we disabled a main way
for it to atempt to take over control of our communication through
that channel. In my experience it has been awfully keen on using scare
tactics to try to isolate us from each other and from our social
contacts. It did the same thing to me just before I went to the UK.
Tried to convince me that all kinds of disasters could happen, and
when that didn't work it was acting up on the whole trip like
something like an insane cupid pimp on speed that would pretty much
have guaranteed to scare you off. So what I'm saying is that it has
been using all kinds of tricks to prevent us from talking freely to
each other.

However, I would suggest that we wait till november before we chat
more, because it had given me a bad omen on october, so I suspect it
would try to act up particularly nasty for the next couple of days if
we tried to talk.

As for yor your concern about my bodily safety I don't think you need
to worry so much about that either: The haunting spirit may have been
very keen on scaring the heck out of me, but it does seem to have
somewhat of an aversion against anything actually happening to me. (As
it appear (on my end of the communication) to be attributable to
something within my particular brain that would make sense too,
because obviously it don't survive (at least not as an entity within
MY perception) if I don't. So calm down. It seems like fear is one of
the things that it has been able to feed on. So don't let that get the
better of you.

Talk to you in november, ok?







P.S. Any instance of the words "I", "Me", and any other 1st person
pronoun in this email as well as any communication from this mail
account refer only to the concrete fysical person who typed it, except
in such instances in which it appear in a quotation from a different
source, and thus NOT to anybody nor to anything else. Likewise any
instance of any other personal pronoun (ie. words like "you", "he",
"she", etc.) refer only to the concrete fysical person of whome it was
intended by the concrete fysical person who typed it, and thus NOT to
anybody nor to anything else.





[I did just tell her to wait till november, right? - Still 'first thing she did was exactly what I said she shouldn't. - And she did the same thing again later on.]
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:15:32): i dont hate u
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:15:51): I'm glad to hear that.
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:17:43): I had to take your profile off my Facebook friendslist. No
offence. I just started feeling uncomfy about it.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:17:50): ok
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:20:11): I hope you're feeling ok.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:20:32): uh. what makes u ask?
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:21:04): You're not typing very much today.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:21:12): oh yeah.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:21:52): hows things today?
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:23:52): It's ok. - I had to remove one of your mails from my inbox
because there was thirteen of them. And that's when things went bad last time we talked.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:24:08): oh?
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:27:32): Same thing happened when things went bad back then... Because
when they started going better was when I went back to my ebay after all this time and made
another buy of something. It had been standing on thirteen comments all that time. But when I
made the auction buy and got the comment it changed to fourteen. And that's when things started
getting a bit better.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:28:55): good. that old nutty "13" gotta watch it.
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:30:26): Hmm.. but subtract, or add "+ 1" is always a way to get
around it.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:30:43): ah!
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:32:07): You don't sound like you're in the best mood. You're so
quiet.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:32:34): i'll live
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:34:24): Even though, as I said I haven't actually been able to read
most of what you write, it still sadens me that you are sad.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:34:29): its gotta be nice for change. it surely wont last for long. heh.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:34:34): how do u know im sad>?
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:35:04): Guessing. You "sound" sad. Being so quiet, I mean.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:35:42): oh.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:36:30): ive changed scince u last knew me, ive been through some shit. and i
know u have too, and i know things aren't easy for you either.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:36:57): i know you get "squashed" alot too
rasmuspnielsen (28-10-2008 19:37:36): Yeah.. We've both been through a lot. We've both changed.
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:38:40): im just glad i can talk to you again
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:38:41): your the ONLY person that I know that is ballsy enough to look at
life with the blinders off
[herprofilename] (28-10-2008 19:38:41): i gotta go



[herprofilename] (31-10-2008 00:08:48): volksgeist or zeitgeist


rasmuspnielsen (01-11-2008 12:03:00): I thought I had made it sufficiently clear that I am not
going to play any games with you or anyone else. Personally I would rather terminate myself
than give as much as one more inch to "stunt junkies" and information thiefs.
['Interesting to notice how, after this point she started trying to pump me for information. - As the second example of her doing exactly what I said I did not want.]



fromRasmus Palbo <[my mail address]>
reply-to[my mail address]

to[her mail address]

dateSat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM
subjectClosing the book of us.
mailed-bygmail.com

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I'm not sure wether to interpret your last yahoo message towards a
hypothesis of your account could have been hijacked again, or towards
some other hypothesis about it. Because I could come up with multiple
hypotheses about it.

And I'm not sure wether the sandwich remark was supposed to mean
something more. But for your information that video I had at my page
was supposed to be for your protection because it looked to me at that
time like what I asumed was your blog was being hijacked.

As for the Facebook profile one of the reasons why I was getting
uncomfy about it was that with the profile image you had chosen for it
you were making yourself look like an open invitation for a feeding
frenzy for kids out to steal candy. And you would have made me and
others on my friends list look like a piñata. And since you had noone
else on your friends list either you also looked like what I have
called an ad-hoc profile.

Anyways, as I said there was a couple of things that I would like to
get off my chest with you. Most importantly I would like to clear up a
possible misunderstanding about something I said to you once that I
think maybe you could have taken the wrong way: You may remember that
one evening I was sort of annoyed with things (NOT with you!) and
complaining about how I felt I was not getting anything worthwile in
return for my efforts... Let me make it absolutely clear about that
once and for all that "THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO SUGGEST ANYTHING ABOUT
YOU!" -When I said back then that I would appreciate it if people
would just occationally pay me for my work, I was just talking about
people in general! - And I sure hope that you didn't interpret that as
if I was suggesting that YOU (as was ABSOLUTELY NOT my intention!)
should somehow give me anything in return for anything. - And I would
have gladly made graphic design or other favours for you, if you
wanted me to, for no other reason than I thought of you as a friend.
So I sure hope you did not interpret that in the wrong way. If you
ever did then I'm sorry about that.

Now I have too many different and contradicting hypotheses about
whatever to make of our communication to feel comfy about going to
[a-state-in-the-U.S.] or anywhere else for you. And I am not feeling quite right
about continuing our conversation either, so I am ending it here. If
you ever feel like comming to Denmark then you can try and see if am
still living at the address that I have on my web page. If you don't
feel like that then that's alright too. I am just glad I had a chance
to talk to you again. I was feeling about our friendship a bit like it
was a good book that suddenly got torn away by a windgust so I never
got to see how it ended. I suppose now this is my way of closing the
book of us. I won't be waiting for an appendix. But if you ever come
to Denmark to meet me IRL none the less then I'll be glad to see you.
Though I expect you won't.


And by the way: I don't hate you either.



Rasmus Palbo Nielsen.



[herprofilename] (01-11-2008 17:23:32): what the fuck rasmus its me eve. remeber in years past we had talked
about volksgeist, then when i had read your idea -natrix- it reminded me of volksgiest which i
read had later evolved into zeitgiest
[herprofilename] (01-11-2008 17:23:46): pls quit being mean to me im trying to b your friend
[herprofilename] (01-11-2008 17:38:20): [external URL] now quit acting like a jackass and be
my friend or dont turd
["be my friend or dont turd"??? - NOT!]
[herprofilename] (01-11-2008 19:29:25): hello hello
[herprofilename] (01-11-2008 19:30:15): stepulvene u sent me that cd remember?




rasmuspnielsen (02-11-2008 12:00:42): Ok. I didn't remember about that right when I saw your
message. It asociated to something else and struck on a traumatic chord for me.
rasmuspnielsen (02-11-2008 12:01:01): Im sorry I freaked out.
rasmuspnielsen (02-11-2008 12:01:59): Did you read my email?
[herprofilename] (02-11-2008 22:45:27): 1 more freakout ras 1 more freakout buddy. i feel bad for you. gee.
[herprofilename] (02-11-2008 22:45:38): im there for you.(*)
[herprofilename] (02-11-2008 22:48:45): i didnt check my email
[herprofilename] (02-11-2008 22:49:47): im goin through my own shit and i need friends next time if u feel
like freakin to somethin ive wrote pls ask me what i wrote to make sure 1st kay? thats all i ask
[That can of course be a bit difficult when she suddenly just disappear for several years without a sound. And given that I'm not even entirely convinced wether she's telling me the truth at all. - And finally add to that my suspecting that she may be deliberately using double-talk throughout a lot of the conversation; the trouble of which is of course always that apart from the set of intended meanings such utterances very often have multiple other possible interpretations that the speaker may never have thought about, so misunderstandings are not just possible but perhaps even likely, if not even almost inavoidable.]
rasmuspnielsen (02-11-2008 23:10:26): I had just been worrying about it since I didn't hear from
you for so long and I needed to clear it up for my peace of mind.
rasmuspnielsen (02-11-2008 23:42:07): Can you help me understand how the picture of my face from
those photos of me that I sent to you in private ended up on the crow29803 Sims2 profile? - I'm
not gonna be angry with you but I would like to know if that was your Sims2 profile.

rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 01:38:21): "you"
[In response to the "(*)" marked line: 'Giving only a specific instance of the word "you" (Wouldn't want to give myself away now wouldn't I!)]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:04:42): Durrrr OMG i didnt know they had. yes i did see those private photos
of you on line at the ruin your life webring which i examined every page. i have yet to examine
the source code on those pages.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:06:03): i sure as hell didnt shre those photos with anyone nor did i post
them online. those were private photos that i kept as intamate treasure. although i knew i
would eventually delete them they remain on a hardrive in a computer that has not been online
in two years
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:07:42): my pc, which is now in the top of a closet and will remain there
untill i ha ve a PLACE and $300 to replace the invidia graphix card it soposedly needs scince
when i boot it up i get "no pc signal" letters flashing on my monitor ..or the card is loose.
eitherway
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:08:43): but i do suspect your photos were leaked on your end as some of the
information i read at the sites accompanying the photos was private information as well. i
suspect you fell prey to a "backdoor trojan"
[Someone else hinted, as an atempt of "voodoo" type induction, at the concept of a "back door" in connection with the distribution of a particular sims1 product, about the same time as the attacks started. - could she be hinting at that?] [herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:09:08): the swedes had used one on me 9 years ago called "black orface"
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:09:48): i didnt assume you told EVERYONE just anyone about
[censored for reasons of privacy]* and i felt very sorry for ketty when i saw those kinds of things blabed on line
*[Could this be an atempt at serving me a "reminder" of the remarks made in this conversation (that I sencored out for the same reason) would make me appear like an ass if I published them?]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:10:37): plus i avoided asking about her to see what u would come forth with
cause im sitting here not knowing what to think scince the last letter i read from u was in
2006 saying [censored for reasons of privacy].
[So she did get that letter.. 'That's funny, because some of the stories on the crow29803 profile seemed to be referring to things in it. I asumed at the time that it had been intercepted. -Though for reasons of fairness I have to say I don't remember if I sent that as a letter or as an email.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:11:25): [censored for reasons of privacy.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:12:49): i believe she is alive now that i seen the picture of the book on
her head what seemed like a current profile on facebook. i didnt feel right about asking you
"is she ok/alive" in the ruin your life webring hello kitty version almost suggested pictorial
death threats against her. so there.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:13:43): now thats established. if the two of you ever wanted to visit that
would be fine by me.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:13:55): but i know thats out of the question at this time
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 02:15:58): [external URL] this is my band mate what is written
on this page is our philosophy -life had been pulling me away from music and i was getting very
depressed. but i get another chance to try
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 03:34:14): and i do wanna see that blog . btw it makes scince that i was hacked
becuase of you. being that the person was after you and they saw the sims and b and went after
me from there
[I too am pretty sure that's what happened.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 03:34:43): you brought this on with your big brainy ideas. but niether one of
us deserve THIS
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 03:35:18): schise
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 03:36:58): fine heres the last bit of information: when i discovered i was had.
I had an idea of who it could be. [name-of-her-presumed-wife]'s brother the cracker - the code cracker.* and we
reported her brother to the federales for hacking us.
[I'll tentatively asume that this has nothing to do with the reference to "rice crackers" earlier?.. And that it's not to be interpreted either as double-talk for someone, perceived of as a "code cracker" (ie. in the sense of someone who broke some kind of "codex") getting reported on?.. - As I said; I'll tentatively asume that those interpretations are not what's intended.. Still 'makes me wonder though... Especially when considering how she ended this conversation.]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 14:19:40): I was pretty much suspecting, as the simplest explanation,
that [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] had found those photos of me and got jealoux or something. - But I know for a fact
that he couldn't have made all the other Harry Potter sims because some of them had very
obvious references to something here in Denmark that you couldn't possibly have known about.
And if I remember correctly some of them even had descriptions in danish.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 17:24:42): And even if that was his Sims2 profile I don't blame him
anymore because I don't think he did the rest and I asume that someone had propably been poking
at him to provoke like they did to me when they used my webcounter and pretend-spammails.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 17:57:55): [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] doesnt have a sims 2 account he doesnt play the sims cause he
has always refered to it as pointless
[So at this point at least she understand that what I am talking about is the Sims2 profile...]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 17:58:32): [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] couldnt have got jealous about u ras cause me and you were
never hot n heavy neways.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 17:58:46): and besides there was [name-of-her-presumed-wife] IRL
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 17:59:23): you still dont want me talking to you? just show me that soposed
blog and you will never hear fromme again.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:00:04): Ok then I'll asume it wasn't him then.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:00:57): its not safe to assume anything these days. u know that. but
i believe you also KNOW the true source of this is closer to home..
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:03:04): i viewed the source code for 1 of the hateful pages lasstnight. you
know the "ruin rasmus life " webring. the source is all danish. now say it was [name-of-her-presumably-former-husband] doing this
, he doesnt know the danish language. he would have had to translate all of it to cover his
tracks.
[-Again turning the topic away from the Harry Potter sims figures and back to talking about the webpages. Not that the original Harry Potter figure matters that much. The reason I point it out is that the hypothesis I'm working on here is that she is in the defensive and reacts by taking on an offensive, interrogative position.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:03:18): and danish doesnt translate to english completely. this u know too
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:03:30): so neither would english to danish
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:04:29): I didn't say anything about those pages. The only thing I
suspected him of was the original Harry Potter sim that was on that Sims2 profile.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:04:32): as for your double speak dictionary* - it s all voodoo. but i agree
you do have to guard yourself
*[Ie. the Superstitions Index]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:04:47): ive always spoken freely, so whatever
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:07:31): obviously the person that taunting you is a dumbass when it comes to
english, they should have used all american sources for this web counter ect, he (and i do
believe its a male) wants you to know who he is- if he hasbnt revieled himself already. take a
secound look.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:08:12): buti will say from my expierences in the past with the sims 1 forums
the people are vicious. oh btw isnt that where i meet you?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:08:58): so you were too trusting in people somewhere and they bit you. im
not the one.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:09:44): i never wanted anything from you in return but friendship. ive
admired you. im not jelous of you for nething
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:10:40): your writing that you shared with me in the past has always inspired
me. in turn to look further, instead of growing stale. i will miss that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:10:59): the person that is hurting you is jealous.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:12:29): didnt you say you had a stalker for 10 years ?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:13:39): No I don't believe I said that. At least not one being a
concrete fysical person.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:14:19): oh come on. the person who scanned the software magazine article?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:14:33): from alooong time ago. and refused to remove your name from it?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:14:36): He scanned that very recently.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:14:51): yah but why?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:15:32): why would he have that mag for 10 years? why would he jusst so
happen to scann something you wrote?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:17:34): One thing that makes this difficult is that there is at one
hand the concrete fysical people doing those things. But on the other hand there is a
'supernatural', or whatever you wanna call it, component too.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:18:38): I don't know what his motivation was for doing that exactly.
But I do know that he is not the only person who has done things like that.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 18:21:01): And I also know that someone or something has been trying to
provoke people against each other.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:44:58): sorry to drop off like that but the phone was needed
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:46:47): i still want to see that soposed blog. then i will shut up forever
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:48:11): the person that took [heroldprofilename] down took accounts from me that i had
been developing for years.my icq account was 9 years old. i really didnt like losing that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 18:48:45): or my yahoo sims groups. just GONE.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:00:30): HERE:
[external URL] LOOK at the date
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:00:35): believe me now?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:00:52): thats when i was trying to salvage what was left of my id and warn
people
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:01:58): look at the two posts. 2005 and 2007 I was hacked in 2006 sometime i
was also going threw some downtime in between.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:06:27): that i told you about in advance and you refered to in in one of
your icq emails. so i was like - well you know whats up so its ok. i didnt know you were being
contacted by an imposter
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:13:24): [external URL] THIS IS NOT ME
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:13:28): LOOK AT THE DATE
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:13:36): they just copied from the old account
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:14:42): i knew that the hacker put my name in the search my [heroldprofilename] name.
the dragon icon. total bullshit. BAM i proved it - at least to me anyways. the methods of the
hacker. compare them PLEASE RASMUS compare them.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:15:33): plus this *new* page gave the option to translate it . which further
upholds my theory that the person who is doing this is from overseas
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:16:53): they fucked up again too because i say "greetings!~" NOT "greets~!"
more proof of thier aweful language
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:26:10): the [heroldprofilename] results that turn up are post from my past, every
account that couldnt be comprimised remains online. although i dont use them
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:27:10): if you will try it , you will bring up 2 pages of results , go to
the secound page and scroll down you will see the next to last result asks to be translated.
that one out of all the results IS NOT ME>
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:28:04): you can see it now, everything that was comprimised is gone, what he
couldnt comprimise he tried to copy, to further invalidate my [heroldprofilename] identity.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:28:12): maybe this is how it happened to you too.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 19:28:43): u dont care anyways
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 21:07:45): Yes I do care. I hadn't checked for your old profile name
[heroldprofilename], and I didn't know about this.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 21:08:21): But I saw a similar thing done with someone using the profile
name c64dude.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 21:53:29): I haven't checked it out thoroughly because I don't want to
be influenced by whatever mindtricks they might be trying to pull, so I just don't read it.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:16:37): The photo you sent me the other day reads "08/09/2008" on
it.. - I believe it's you. 'Just saying.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:17:14): it is in yellow ?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:17:25): yes.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:17:35): the automatic date on my camara isnt always correct. but yes.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:18:09): i dont want to lose you. but i will go away qietly untill things get
better.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:18:28): Right this moment?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:18:34): if you wish
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:18:39): No.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:18:53): 'Just sounded abit like it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:19:08): heheh. i want to help you track this asshole.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:19:19): Dont.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:19:22): answer me this once. do you know who hacked us?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:19:33): No I don't know.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:21:38): As for you going away quietly until things get better I think
it's a good idea. I don't want to lose you either. But for awhile... But first there is one or
two more things...
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:21:49): yes?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:24:30): You know those pictures of yourself that you sent me.. I
don't know if you think it's ok that I still have them. They are a fond memory..
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:25:37): I don't you know "use" them for.. you know.. - And sorry if
that's a gross asociation.. But I don't.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:26:15): heheh. i gave them to you. i trust you. youre cool. youve always
been cool, and you still are.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:26:49): Ok.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:27:30): Would you think it gross if i did?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:29:13): Occationally.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:29:43): thats up to you. theyre yours . i gave them to you.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:30:06): Ok. Thanx.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:30:44): yours were really sexy too. but we shouldnt start talking about it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:31:06): it was nice seeing them again even cause i hadnt had access to them
for along time heheh
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:31:12): but anyway...
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:31:14): hottie
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:31:32): i need to see that blog you mentioned
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:31:54): Just one more thing about it and I'll stop talking about it.
And then I'll give you the url.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:32:00): okay
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:33:02): You remember that evening when we got drunk.. And I gotta
confess that I couldn't resist the temptation to make a screencapture...
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:33:13): yah
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:35:11): i am on dial up connection
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:36:03): im not so wild and crazy nemore
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:36:29): It's ok. I just hope you're not mad at me for doing that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:37:23): are you canceling the file?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:37:28): No.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:38:04): can u email it to me if this doesnt work
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:38:59): ah!
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:39:01): I'll email it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:39:08): thanks
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:43:00): There. I sent it to you. - You ought to delete the attachment
or if you can't then the whole email as soon as you have downloaded the gif. So that it doesn't
lie around.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:43:16): Let me know when you got it.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:43:24): brb
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:44:00): it has arrived in the inbox
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:44:07): k
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:44:24): Have you got the gif?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:45:07): getting it now
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:45:16): ok.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:47:01): omg
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:47:22): I deleted it from my sent mail folder and deleted it
permanently from my trashcan folder too.
[FYI: I deleted the gif entirely shortly after this conversation, as I was not feeling right about having it in the first place]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:47:41): You should do the same, so it doesn't lie around.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:47:56): I hope you're not mad at me.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:48:13): lol thats great!
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:48:23): thats so naughty
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:48:28): rofl
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:48:48): cute job
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:48:51): I'm glad you take it that way. I was nervous about telling
you.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:50:01): its ok
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:50:36): Did you delete it from your inbox? - And from your trashed
mail too?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:50:44): You should.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:51:01): yes its done
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:51:03): Don't want it getting in the wrong hands.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:51:10): Ok.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:51:16): Now, as for that URL
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:51:26): yes
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:51:41): Do you have "gif animator"?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:51:59): not presently . i had.b4.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:52:07): Get it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:52:08): trying to make a banner
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:52:12): ok
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:53:03): And when you got it then use it to open the gif I just sent
you.. Then find frame #40. It contains the url.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:53:33): why so secret?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:54:33): I don't want to make a record of it in this conversation,
see.. Because it also refer to the location.. If that other girl still has that on there.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:55:03): very good
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:55:51): microsoft gif animator sound right?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:56:02): Yes. That's it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:56:14): alright]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:56:34): she has my gif?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:56:40): No.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:57:04): oh sorry.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:58:27): But there was a comment on her blog that sounded very
explicitly like something meant for me. Lots of references.. Or so it seemed to me. So I asumed
because of the name and all.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 22:58:45): we'll see about this
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 22:59:28): And as I said at that time her profile image looked just like
you. Though she changed it later.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:01:37): But if I remember right there might have been two girls in
that older profile image, so maybe the girl that looked like you was actually a friend of hers.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:02:48): well i see nothing on frame 40 i saved the frame and enlarged it
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:03:03): Not on the frame as such...
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:03:15): Did you get GIF animator?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:03:37): [external URL]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:04:17): Nope. Not that one. Microsoft GIF animator.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:04:30): just a sec.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:06:27): Ups yes. I was wrong about that. That's the same one. 'Just
looked different because of my settings.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:07:48): I see it!
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:07:53): omg
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:07:57): ok
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:08:10): Open the gif with that. Then scroll down the list until you
get to frame 40. DONT use the up/down arrow keys because they move the frames around. But
scroll by clicking on the slider bar.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:08:11): im going there now
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:08:25): image tab
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:09:08): now remember i had found a girl by that name from australia, alot
like me. we'll see
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:09:15): i called her my doppleganger
[That does kind of smell abit like she is atempting to establish a plausible cover-story for herself. After all what are the odds that that girl should show up on that self same blog?]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:09:29): loading
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:09:57): Yeah she could be.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:11:08): she had curly hair then. [city-name-mentioned-on-blog-profile] is that [country-where-I-went]?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:11:32): yes it is.
[I did say I preferred not to get the details into the conversation, right? - Still first thing she did as she got the url was - FOR THE THIRD TIME - to do exactly what I had said not to, and gave the exact name- and location details necessary to find the through a google search. - But it's ok I guess. After all IF it's her own details then at least it wasn't ME who gave them away.)]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:11:34): Well thanx for mentioning it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:11:36): you didnt!!!!!
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:12:18): im not 20 AND not a big [musician's name] fan
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:12:24): did she email you or the hacker?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:13:10): okay. this is most likey a real eve [used-to-be-surname]. but it is not
me/myself.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:14:06): I saw a nother rasmus palbo nielson when i was looking for you but
it was an old man, ya know?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:14:46): I didn't see that. How long ago was that?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:15:36): [external URL]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:16:30): Ok.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:16:36): u know him?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:16:40): No.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:16:43): ok
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:17:12): It doesn't say anything about his middle name.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:17:36): true but i typed your full name in the search and he appeared
[Although that url does appear as one of the first in the google search for "Rasmus Nielson", it does not appear when googling the full name; Rasmus Palbo Nielsen, as she claimed. (Nor when I tried "Nielson" in stead of "Nielsen" either). - One could suspect, as another reason for her to make this claim - so soon after having blurted out the name-and-location details of that blog - that she wants to make sure to have my full name mentioned in the conversation too. - Plus there is a second possibility, as mentioned in the next comment.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:17:41): sober as a judge
[This entire reference to that url appear rather odd altogether. Out of context with anything. Though she does make a second reference to "a judge" later on. So in the context of "voodoo" this could be seen as an atempt to "set the stage" for a mock "trial": ie. in terms of using that article (as, hypothetically, she might have found elements in it, which presumably she has conceived of as optimally ideal or convenient, to further her own interests) as a frame of reference for conceptual priming. For whatever she might (hypothetically) think I did her wrong, or something? - However; to avoid such influence I have avoided reading the article, so I can't evaluate how well this hypothesis correspond with the actual content of it... - Notice, however, how, after this point, her questioning does take on a gradually increasing interrogative tone.]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:17:49): Ok.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:18:08): There are A LOT of people named Rasmus Nielsen, you know.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:18:22): oh ok
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:18:33): glad i didnt contact
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:18:42): looks like he's been dead for awhile too
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:19:23): Yeah. Like in the 1800s.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:19:34): :-D
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:20:14): So that would have been a bit impossible.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:20:31): yea maybe
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:22:12): you contacted this person
[Surely NOT that person from the url she gave me! ;-)]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:22:18): eve [used-to-be-surname]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:22:53): rasmus do u scare yourself sometimes?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:23:03): you are such a wildman!
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:23:56): As I said I just saw her once. But she was talking with
someone at an event, so I wouldn't want to intrude. I just waited and thought she'd show up
again.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:24:21): you got confused its okay
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:24:22): it happens
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:25:02): ok. u told me someone sent you an email claiming to be me with my
picture in it saying they were in trouble?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:25:34): No. Not an email. And it didn't have your picture in it
either...
[It might be that she's confusing what I said earlier; that at that time that blog profile had a picture of, if not her, then a girl who looked exactly (and I don't just mean it looked pretty much like her: I really mean; it looked exactly) like her]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:27:26): It was a message left at a forum and it didn't actually say
it was from you either, but it appeared to refer to stuff from my hp. So I looked you up and I
found that page and one of the blog messages had more apparent references.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:28:20): what made you go to [country-where-I-went] to see eve [used-to-be-surname]. its okay . im not
judging you. im just trying to understand whats happened.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:28:48): I just said. After all that used to be your name.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:29:07): so you just wanted to meet and thought what the hey?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:29:41): were you going to surprise the person or didu tell her you were
coming to see her?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:30:25): It looked to me at that time like you were trying to
communicate. And I didn't have a mail address so I couldn't contact..
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:30:35): " It was a message left at a forum and it didn't actually say it was
from you either, but it appeared to refer to stuff from my hp. So I looked you up and I found
that page and one of the blog messages had more apparent references." i can only wonder.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:31:23): Hey, I thought it was you trying to get me to meet, ok?
[Also I was also worried that she; if it was not from her, might interpret that message as being from me, and doing something foolish in response, to expose herself. Which of course might well have been exactly the intent of that message]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:31:30): ok
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:31:32): thats ok
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:31:49): are you the impulsive type rasmus?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:32:08): Not usually. Though I can be.
[A few lines of exchange here censored for reasons of privacy]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:36:03): MMmmhmmmmm.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:36:13): does she have any brothers?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:36:19): No.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:36:22): Why?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:37:28): well, nothing. just some of the way the harasser was refering to her
in the ruin your life webpage.
[A few lines of exchange here censored. - She may decide to publish that part or not.]
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:40:46): have you found yourself being folowed?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:41:03): On occation.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:41:16): But I'm not really sure how to interpret that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:41:40): do u suspect it has anything to do with ebay?
[Unless she is referring to the "jinx" mentioned earlier, it could be that she might be thinking of an incident that I had told her about earlier, where someone on eBay gave me retaliatory feedback for a negative feedback I had given them for a buy that turned out to be in much worse condition than they had described. Though I don't think it has anything to do with that.]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:42:02): No. I don't suspect that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:42:09): ok.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:42:49): when i went to sweden the contacts there had a lot of "nike" clothes
NEW ones in wrappers they wanted me to offload them
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:42:57): but i decided it wasnt the best deal
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:43:12): they had guns and alot of different cash
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:43:25): they also wanted me to send stuff into sweden
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:43:47): Ah. Yea that sounds like something you wouldn't want to stick
your nose into.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:43:48): pinhole camaras, survielence...technology trade
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:44:08): then they atarted talking about dismantling weapons and shipping
them
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:44:22): the persons family was a judge. there
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:44:30): right i was 19. i wanted out
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:44:32): of that
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:45:08): they also talked of nazi's and car bombings
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:45:17): get it'?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:46:30): Yes I can understand why you wanted out of that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:47:03): right exspecially scince i didnt know the trip was about THAT untill
i got over there. nice huh.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:47:18): Yea..
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:47:23): so you were involved in anything like that now?
[At this point she intensified the interrogative tone. Could it possibly be that she - suspecting someone could be listening in - is trying to make me say something - anything - that would incriminate myself? (Consider her very last line in this conversation: "msg me if theres anything on your mind"; after which point she didn't write back - leaving me to send messages who-knows-where).]
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:48:30): Not like what you describe. No. It's not the same kind of
thing. But I really can't tell you.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:49:30): Let's just drop that topic, ok?
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:49:46): sorry i got booted
[Conveniently implicating that she "missed" my explicitly telling her to drop the topic - 'making it the FOURTH time she does exactly what I told her not to... Did I mention that the crow29803 profile had an explicit proclamation about 'not going to give him what he want'?] rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:50:04): What does that mean? I don't know that expression.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:50:45): knocked offline
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:50:51): Oh.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:51:00): do you have any association with the turks there?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:51:35): No. Not as such.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:51:58): what about the sri lanka bunch?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:52:18): You start to sound like you're interrogating me.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:52:24): sorry.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:52:55): i dont know
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:53:12): I said let's drop the topic. -It's not anything like that.
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:53:40): But I really can't say. So let's just drop it.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:53:41): oh i guess i missed that. ok
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:54:44): someday you and ketty should come to the us and you should take a
philosophy class. then publish all your writing. then teach.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:54:47): that would be cool
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:55:13): all the while programming.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:55:40): do u remember the "real doll" videos i sent you. the rubber doll
with the electronic pussy?
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:55:55): Yea. I remember that.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:55:56): sorry to be vulgar but i didnt know how else to say that
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:56:17): okay
rasmuspnielsen (03-11-2008 23:56:23): 'I think I still have those videos btw.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:57:27): i had always wanted to give her a cpu. a heartrate that moves and
"breathes" like upgrade her. becuase i dunno. its the feminest in me i guess. "women have a
brain" not just for sex that kinda thing. a synthetic voice.
[herprofilename] (03-11-2008 23:58:00): like lady frankenstien or old android movies from the 60's a fun way
to pass the time
[Asuming as one hypothesis that she may in fact have already read my stuff on related topic from my old homepage this could possibly be viewed (asuming in that case she must have interpreted my remarks on that topic in that way) as her not missing out on a last chance to gloat (or "crow") before she leaves. (?!)]
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 00:00:08): Do you want me to send you a copy of the old webpage? It has
my booklets. There's one about AI-related topics.
[herprofilename] (04-11-2008 00:00:24): yes i would like that very much
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 00:00:40): Ok. I'll mail it to you.
[herprofilename] (04-11-2008 00:01:03): ok. im gonna go for a bit . smoke and such. msg me if theres
anything on your mind.
[After this point; having got, I suppose, as much as she could hope to get of what she was after, she didn't write back again; pretty much definitively confirming my suspicions about her intentions. (The "smoke and such" remark does kind of make me asociate to the cliché about the guy who left the wife as one day he "went out for a pack of cigarettes" and never came back. Does she perhaps just have a grudge against men or something like that?!
- A couple of details does speak in support of this hypothesis: When I asked about her profile name (ie. her old profile name) she replied that it meant "odder", although I looked it up later and found it actually means "vixen". -'First time I met her back in time was in a chat forum where I was joking around, perhaps in a bit flirtatious way with some of the girls there. And she contacted me (about AI-related topics, by the way) and we started chatting privately by messenger. And I also remember that her old icq profile stated something like "No cybersex - don't even think about it!" or something like that... Is it conceiveable that she, from the very first moment, contacted me in the first place with the deliberate intent of getting me in trouble? Keep in mind the two "Are you just jerking me around for sex?!" comments previously: There wasn't any reason at all in the context for that reaction; still that was her immediate reaction... It was her who started with the stripping and sending me pictures of herself, and it was her who suggested that game of sending pictures to each other, from where the pictures of me originated. And it was very shortly after I sent them to her that she suddenly disappeared without a word, and the crow29803 profile appeared. - Is this person - whatever her real name is - out on some kind of personal vendetta against men or what?! Did she pick me out for destruction just for joking around in a perhaps flirtatious way?.. Well if that's so then in my defense; I might have been a bit flirtatious at that time, but I'm not any kind of don juan. Far from it. There would be many other guys much more "active" than me. So why me of all people? Did I just happen to be a convenient target at a moment when she happened to feel like ruining someone's life?)
- Still: There is the "possessing spirit" hypothesis looming in the background; which I can not satisfactorily account for here. Suffice to say that apart from what I have commented on in the previous there are several details in the conversation which seem to support that hypothesis. And as far as I have come to know the behavior what I have called "the Natrix" or the "haunting spirit" the "grudge" theory is exactly the kind of "open-and-shut case scenario" interpretation that it has been keen on promoting in its rather obvious efforts to stir up trouble and animosity.
- Secondly; at this point I should, rather than the remark I had here before, make a remark on the illusion(!) which the Natrix in my experience has been fond of using for purposes of pinning people against each other and similar; of personalities or spirits of particular people apparently "jumping" or "moving" to different people: I have lately (re-)encountered atempts on part of the Natrix at using this illusion, and come to the conclusion (as seem to be evident not least from the fact that 'spirits' which have supposedly "moved away" has had a tendency of nevertheless showing up again as if the move had never occured.) that it is in fact absolutely illusory in the sense that the phenomenon is limited to the individual perception of the person "observing" it; whereas no corresponding changes of personality or similar occur in the supposedly "receiving" person. And as illusions go even a rather simple one; as it typically rely on a very limited number of asociative cues, such as letting the receiving person utter one or two simple, but easily recognizable phrases. So if you ever encounter something like that (as I suspect may well have been the case) then rest asured that it's just another one of the Natrix' atempts to stir up trouble or whatever the purpose may be: There hasn't been "transferred" anything, and nobody "lost" part of their personality or "soul" in such a supposed "transfer": The only thing changed is the direction of awareness of the person observing the illusion.]

rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 01:02:51): Only that I enjoyed chatting with you.
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 01:08:44): And I will of course remain enjoying to chat with you.. Given
that you are still interested in chatting..


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rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 03:17:42): Oh, and would that by any chance be my son at the background
of that avatar image? - Just had to ask.

rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 18:05:25): And by "my son" I was obviously referring only to the
(relatively harmless) naturally bred, concrete fysical son of the concrete fysical person
Rasmus Palbo Nielsen, and thus not to anything nor to anybody else.
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 18:10:11): And note that it was articulated merely as a question.
Obviously you are in your good right to confirm or deny as you please.
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 18:13:53): It's just that it has been a reoccuring theme. And your
avatar looked like a movie-reference to the movie "Constantine" with the wings and the baby in
the background.
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 18:27:43): "Magic items" (which in this case means concrete fysical
items with asociative meanings to them) played a dominant part on my travel to the UK. Some of
them (among them a picture of a baby*) I thought you and I ought to figure out together what to do
with.
[*which I'm just gonna trash now, however, since it seems pointless for me to still keep it after all this time.]
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 18:30:09): Since I didn't get to meet you I brought them back to
Denmark. I still have them.



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rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 19:09:45): The video I just sent to you (or rather; the "forewards"
version) was originally on my hp at some point. I made it because I had to stop a pesky
robot-thing that kept comming at me at that time.
[A few lines of exchange here censored. - She may decide to publish that part or not.]
rasmuspnielsen (04-11-2008 20:04:07): Generally I found, with regard to "voodoo dolls" that
althought the first couple of Harry Potter sims with my face on them that occured effected me
quite a bit when I saw them; the more of those sims that showed up the less they affected me. I
suppose in that sense a voodoo doll or picture can be compared to a vector "pulling" in a
certain direction. Though as the number of vectors increase, all pulling in different
directions, the sum total is no longer "pulling" very much in any particular direction.

rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 03:57:03): Back in the natural world.. And while everybody else, I
suppose, are watching the elections...
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:06:43): A lot of graffitis have appeared in my neighbourhood and
places where I go. One graffiti-tag that been here for a long time says "OKME". It could refer
to the "cows agreement" from the hp.. - Then lately another tag showed up; stating "STABR" - Of
course it could be interpreted as an acusation. Or as an encouragement to "stab R"...
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:10:18): So I added "ASMUS" to it and sketched a dripping knife
underneath, so that everybody can see what kind of meanings those graffitis carry.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:25:17): Again some of them seem to carry references, like names and
initials, to the before mentioned situation. Though someone who don't know about that would of
course not see any connection.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:28:57): When I went to [country-where-I-went] back in April 2008 there too was a
name, which had also occured on that blog, plus the initials of me and my brother.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:35:31): There were some arrows (vectors) suggesting (or atempting to
enforce?) a particular direction. So I added more vectors to it pointing in all directions.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 04:41:54): I atempted to write you an encoded message that only you
would understand, of a particular time of day. But that got removed in a matter of days.

rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 05:34:15): Oh, and come to think of it.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 05:39:08): That guy, when I saw him, was standing outside a bar and like
staking out the bus terminal.* See, when I first arrived there was a note taped to a pillar at
[*Though I have a feeling that it's just another look-a-like ('propably just some guy) in one of the Natrix' enactments.. - The Natrix appear to have been keen on trying to get me to start a conflict with a person of that general appearance.]
the bus terminal with a phone number and something like calling that number "for a good time"..
Looked like it was for prostitutes... But the interesting about it is that at the corner of it
was written something like "r&b was here" or something like that.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 05:40:45): Obviously I didn't call because I felt there was something
definately not right about that. I just took down the note and threw it away.
rasmuspnielsen (05-11-2008 21:24:47): Good thing I got to talk about the graffitis. I went out
today and took photos of all those graffitis in my neighbourhood that I told you about
yesterday, and uploaded them to my webpage. You can see them at
[external URL]

rasmuspnielsen (06-11-2008 00:46:28): Well, since I gave you that url, I guess I'll propably never
hear from you again, as you said. That's ok. I still don't hate you. I'll just go back to the
deliberate wasting of my life. Oh, and btw. I know of a [Censored for reasons of privacy] in
appreciation of the chance to get to chat with you again and finish up on unfinished business. -So,
if I don't hear from you again then good luck to you.



fromRasmus Palbo <[my mail address]>
reply-to[my mail address]

to[her mail address]

dateThu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM
subjectI may have to close down this mail account.
mailed-bygmail.com

hide details 2:38 PM (1 hour ago) Reply


I propably have to close down this mail account, as I just received a
suspicious mail (which obviously I - as always - threw away without
opening). So if I get any more of those I'm closing this mail-account
down. - Also I stop having Yahoo messenger running on my system. I may
check it again sometime once in a while for a period, but not for too
long. So after that you will have no means of communicating with me.
So... That's it, I guess.




rasmuspnielsen (06-11-2008 17:11:00): 'Wonder, btw. what kinds of things might happen if I was ever
to publish this conversation in full.. hmmm...




fromRasmus Palbo <[my mail address]>
reply-to[my mail address]

to[her mail address]

dateWed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:10 PM
subjectI uninstalled yahoo messenger from my system and I am shutting down this mail account now.
mailed-bygmail.com

hide details 3:10 PM (1 minute ago) Reply


I have uninstalled yahoo messenger from my system today, and I am
going to shut down this mail account too. So from now on you won't
have any way to contact me online.

You should be informed, however, that someone had apparently hacked my
mobango account to remove that mail (you remember I told you about
that I had gotten a forewarning about not opening a mail so I just
deleted it from this mail account). Then the other day I went into my
mobango account to shut down that account and delete the mails from
it, and I was making an effort to cover the screen so that I wouldn't
accidentally read anything because of course I expected that mail to
be there. But apparently someone had been on the account and removed
it. For whatever reason. Maybe whomeever sent it suddently changed
their minds and didn't want me to see what was in it. Though one of
the graffitis here in Bagsværd looks like it's referring to it; as it
says "LG" (the brand of the mobile device I had on that account) and
"SU" (which is a danish abbreviation for "answer requested").

So you should know that whomeever broke into my mobango account would
have had access to any part of our conversation that we had through
mobango. - I guess that is also how they got this mail address to send
me that other suspicious mail I told you about.

Anyways; the very fact that they appear to know of this mail account
now means that I have to shut down this mail account so that they
can't send me any more of that psychoactive bullshit they've been
sending me before.

So... This is it.



*Any instance of the words "I", "Me", and any other 1st person pronoun on this entire website, as well as in any document which was actually
written by Rasmus Palbo Nielsen, anywhere else on the web, refer (except in such cases in which it appear in a quotation from a different
source) only to the concrete fysical person Rasmus Palbo Nielsen, and thus NOT to anybody nor to anything else.
And likewise: Any instance of any other personal pronoun (ie. words like "you", "he", "she", etc.) on this entire website, as well as in any document which
was actually written by Rasmus Palbo Nielsen, anywhere else on the web, refer (except in such cases in which it appear in a quotation from a
different source) only to the concrete fysical person of whome it was intended, and thus NOT to anybody nor to anything else.